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Response received from the Washington Accord in reply of BTAC Query.

Posted by Engr Waseem Raja on August 10, 2011 at 1:15 AM

The response received from the Washington Accord in reply of BTAC Query It is quite obvious that we have to make establish our own separate Pakistan Technology Council (PTC) so that we could pursue with the washington Accord for the recognition of our B.Tech degree internationally because PTC is the only forum which will effectively project our true image, contribution in progress and prosperity of pakistan.

 

BTAC (B.Tech Action Committe) Query:

Dear Sir/Madam:

 

The B.Tech Hons (4-years) degree is being offered by the 22 public and private sector chartered Universities and Degree Awarding Institutes at their main campuses, sub campuses and affiliated colleges.

 

The Technology and Engineering Education Routes in Pakistan can be viewed in the attached file please.

 

The IEA defines the education (no. of years) against each Accord which is quoted and reproduced below:

 

Agreements covering tertiary qualifications in engineering:

There are three agreements covering mutual recognition in respect of tertiary-level qualifications in engineering:

 

  • The Washington Accord: signed in 1989 was the first - it recognises substantial equivalence in the accreditation of qualifications in "professional engineering", normally of four years duration.

 

  • The Sydney Accord commenced: in 2001 and recognises substantial equivalence in the accreditation of qualifications in "engineering technology", normally of three years duration.

 

  • The Dublin Accord: is an agreement for substantial equivalence in the accreditation of tertiary qualifications in technician engineering, normally of two years duration. It commenced in 2002."

 

 

It is requested to clarify please that the B.Tech Hons (4-year) degree lies in which Accord either in Washington Accord or Sydney Accord?

 

Thank you very much.

 

 

Response from IEA Accords:

 

Good morning

Thanks for your e mail.

 

Firstly Pakistan (Pakistan Engineering Council) has provisional status of the Washington Accord (WA). Once they gain full Washington Accord status it is up to them (the PEC) to determine which programs in Pakistan will be accredited as having WA equivalence.

 

As to the Sydney and Dublin Accord, at this point of time there is no engineering council / body in Pakistan that has provisional or full status of these; so no programs in Pakistan will be recognised under the Sydney or Dublin Accords.

 

A point of clarification; for a body within a country to be a recognised as a full member of the Washington Accord (or any of the other accords), there is a process that the country goes through. They must apply and the systems and processes that are in place in that country (for example in the academic learning institutions) are examined by a review panel. The process continues with regular reviews being made of member nations who have been granted WA status.

 

Thanks

  

In Simple:

In simple PEC recognised from WA (Washington Accord) whose registered only professional Engineers (BE/BSc Engineers) and they dont have authority to registeration of Engineering Technologists (DAE, B.Tech, BS.Tech, BSc Technology & M.Tech). For the registeration of Engineering Technologists, they also required recognition through "The Sydney Accord" then PEC have permission to registered the Engineering Technologists now we have two option of registeration.

PETC (Pakistan Engineering & Technologists Council):

PEC make a seperate department for Engineering Technology and also changed his name like PETC whose also recognised through "The Sydeny Accord" then PETC have permission to registered the Engineering Technologists but on the other hand PEC degrade the Engineering Technologits from last 28 years then hows this possible that PEC will give the equal rights to Engineering Technologists in future like BE/BSc Engineers after the upgradation of PEC to PETC.

 

PTC (Pakistan Technology Council):

 

MOST (Ministery of Science and Technology) must make a seperate platform for all Engineering Technologists (DAE, B.Tech, BS.Tech, BSc Technology & M.Tech) named PTC whose recognised through "The Sydney Accord" according to the suggestion of IEA Accords, Because PTC is the only forum which will effectively project our true image, contribution in progress and prosperity of pakistan. This forum will eliminate all disparities whose facing the Engineering Technologists.

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10 Comments

Reply PSBTE Team
2:04 PM on August 11, 2011 
read properly and must leave your comments
Reply uzair akram
11:39 PM on August 18, 2011 
ptc is best for b.techer's.....
Reply Muhammad Waqar
6:21 AM on August 23, 2011 
First of all, no degree should start in a country where no educational body can handle their matters such as our B-Tech (Hons) degree still not recognized in Pakistan through a government body. But it should remember that many countries accepts/recognize our B-Tech degree i.e KSA offering many jobs for us as well as European universities accepts our B-Tech (HONS) degree for MSc/MS Engineering.
PEC has no authority to recognize us as per IEA accords and PEC should not try to degrade us but should clarify that where funds are utilizing that each institute of Engineering receives in the name of TECHNOLOGY??? A big question mark is for PEC, UET, etc
I completely agree for the establishment of our OWN PAKISTAN TECHNOLOGY COUNCIL and all engineers appointed on technology seats (Public & Private sectors) should resign immediately.
plz update me at [email protected]
Reply IMRAN ZAMIR
11:20 PM on August 26, 2011 
The Govt. should stop B.Tech education through out the country at once or define a clear STATUS of B.Tech Technologists. We work hard for 4-years study & more importantly our parent spend money . After 4 - year education we are not in a position to return them.
Reply Nouman
5:08 AM on September 5, 2011 
Please do not include the DAEs in the PTC because it gives the impression (as per PEC) that DAEs and B.Tech both are same thing, hence, Technicians/Supervisors. The Engineering Technologist (B.TEch) is not equivalent to the Engineering Technician (DAE).

There is a separate body working for accreditation and registration of DAEs named as NAVTEC in Pakistan.
Reply Muhammad Naveed Iqbal Malik
1:17 PM on October 2, 2011 
Both options are reasonable & applicable also
Reply Waqar Ahmad
12:13 AM on January 18, 2012 
Dear All,

Please contact the universities who offer B-tech courses and force the universities to make a platfrom for B-tech other wise stop the new admissions in B-tech till the solid solution.Request to all universities please d"nt play with the future of Students.
Reply M.TAUQEER MINHAS
11:09 AM on January 26, 2012 
SIR,
HMEN KHUSHI HE K AP KOSHISH KR RAHEY HAN KIUN K HAMGAREEB LOG HE KHUD MEHNAT KR KPARTEY HAN.AP SUPREME COURT KO BTAEN AGAR GOVT NE HMEN KOI STATUS NI DENA TO PHER HAM SE HEC KE HWALE SE LAKHOON RUPEY KIUN KMA RAHE HAN PHER YE PROGREM KIUN CHALAEY JA RAHEY HAN. YE PROGRAM BND KR DEN JO PHLY DEGREE KR CHUKEY HAN ANHEN RECOMMENDATION DE DEN .HEC KO B BTAEN THANKS
Reply ZULFIQAR ALI
2:42 AM on February 1, 2012 
B-Tech (Hon) Degree is equivalent with MSc. or Master Degree in Pakistan. If yes then give me reply. if not, any effort for master degree
Reply babar
2:53 AM on November 1, 2012 
mai b.tec kr chuka hoon kia mujy bsc engineering ya bsc technology mai admision mil sakta hai ?ager mil sakta hai to kis smaster mai account kia jay ga plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz reply must at 03026626652 msg